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07-03-2009, 05:22 AM
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The Acquainted
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Html 5
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lawson, SitePoint.com
To some, it’s an outrageous attempt by browser manufacturers to foist what they want onto developers. In SitePoint’s HTML 5: Now or Never? article, Tommy Olsson described it as “an abomination ... it mocks everything I consider important on the Web.” Others see it as the way forward for developing powerful multimedia web apps on an open architecture, without Flash or Silverlight or similar proprietary technologies. Doug Schepers, the W3C’s Team Contact for the SVG and Web Apps Working Groups says, “HTML 5 is not a technical achievement, it’s a social movement.”
The reason that opinion is so divided is that HTML 5 is more than just a markup syntax for documents, like HTML 4 is. One clue is in the working group’s original name, before it was brought into the W3C camp: Web Hypertext Application Technology Working Group. The original goal for HTML 5 was to make it easier to develop Web applications. There’s evidence of this in the rash of new JavaScript APIs and support for offline development, some of which are already available in a browser near you.
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Read More On Sitepoint.com
Find HTML 5 References on w3schools.com
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I am curious what are your thoughts on this new concept for HTML 5?
Note: I take no claims for these articles and can not be help responsibly if they are inaccurate, I am simply posting for you to see and to get your opinion.
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07-03-2009, 05:33 AM
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The Addict
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Well, aside from the lack of group cooperation (mostly on the <video> supported codec) it's going quite well. (I'm active on the WHATWG mailing list(s).)
The support is rolling in quite nicely (From Mozilla, Opera, Apple, and Google), IE is still failing to implement numerous features which will stall HTML5 to no end.
The goals of HTML5 are great and I'm really excited for the final release of the spec.
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10-06-2009, 05:42 PM
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The Acquainted
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HTML 5 Standards Mode
Hi all,
I have been thinking a lot about current web development and HTML 5. If I am starting a new site from the ground up, would it be adventageous to use DocType HTML 5 in my new page templates?
Is it true that I can use all of the same mark up from:
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
with the html 5 doctype?
And is it true that HTML5 doctype will force browsers to standards mode? If so, we should then begin developing with it right?
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10-06-2009, 06:54 PM
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The Contributor
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Originally Posted by buildakicker
Hi all,
I have been thinking a lot about current web development and HTML 5. If I am starting a new site from the ground up, would it be adventageous to use DocType HTML 5 in my new page templates?
Is it true that I can use all of the same mark up from:
Code:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
with the html 5 doctype?
And is it true that HTML5 doctype will force browsers to standards mode? If so, we should then begin developing with it right?
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Yes, with the html5 doctype you can use both the "loose" and the more strict syntax.
html5 will set any current IE browser to render in standards mode so nothing is stopping you from using it right now. Any advantages? yeah the much nicer doctype declaration :)
It's a long way there and is a process so to stay crossbrowser pretty much nothing has changed.
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10-06-2009, 07:29 PM
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how quixotic are you?
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While all the browsers I know of support the HTML Doctype, only a couple support the actual HTML5 tags (like <section> or <article>), so just be aware of that.
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10-06-2009, 08:25 PM
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I love the stuff you can do with javascript and canvas element, the web is gonna get much more interactive, very exciting time to be a web dev! However I fear these new technologies will only remain a small part of the web for years to come, thanks to Redmond dragging there feet as per usual.
Just look at some of this stuff:
http://www.chromeexperiments.com/
very impressive when you think its all html5 + js!
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10-07-2009, 12:37 AM
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The Addict
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Originally Posted by ETbyrne
While all the browsers I know of support the HTML Doctype, only a couple support the actual HTML5 tags (like <section> or <article>), so just be aware of that.
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Most browsers, (barring Internet Explorer x.x+), treat any unknown elements as "xml"-ish. This means that they treat those elements as display:block, ect... They still have the normal properties, attributes, and abilities of previous elements <p>,<a>... but they are just not supported by HTML 4.
The IE team and browser is different because back in the way-hay-days of the web there were no real standards (there still are not, HTML5 is just a "forced" suggestion), just suggestions on what to do and how to do it. With IE having a monopoly on the web they decided to create algorithms to adapt and converge all the web documents into one method/design. This involved many contradicting terms, ideas, values, ect.. but created a magically compromised and similar page across many different systems.
With these adaptive algorithms came the need for those to stay similar to comply with business applications/processes. Thus when other bodies (standards groups, browser vendors) came into the view they all wanted to do their own way for everything. This has lead to almost two separate standards, IE and the w3c. Microsoft is stuck with the fact that they have to remain as consistent as possible for businesses and the w3c wants to push all of these radical ideas into the mix [Open Source [en,de]coding, universal error handling, exactly compliant fonts (size, shape, amount, quality), ect...].
With each new draft of HTML5 (no space) Microsoft is pushed farther and farther away from the new spec. They simply cannot change, and it's a very sad fact that I don't think the "open"/html5 web will come for 4-7+ years. IE will need to slowly integrate the new changes into the browser to allow businesses to cope and code for them.
(There may be errors, I wrote it in one shot.)
*EDIT* IE has actually implemented a few features that no other browser has. .onhashchange(); is a HTML5 proposed JS/DOM addition.
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Originally Posted by sketchMedia
I love the stuff you can do with javascript and canvas element, the web is gonna get much more interactive, very exciting time to be a web dev! However I fear these new technologies will only remain a small part of the web for years to come, thanks to Redmond dragging there feet as per usual.
Just look at some of this stuff:
http://www.chromeexperiments.com/
very impressive when you think its all html5 + js!
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All of the ideas have been around from the early computer days, but seeing as browsers have been text-only for a long time and are not compliant with images, being able to run full "touchscreen" applications and dynamic adaptations is really a miracle in design.
I love the new spec and it's very impressive.
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10-16-2012, 09:30 AM
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The Wanderer
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There are many benefits of HTML5. It provides a new SQL-based database API that can be used for storing data locally, that is client side. You get fully defined and structured database storage. As it will be easy to see which parts of the page are headers, nav, footers, aside, etc.
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10-18-2012, 12:59 PM
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10-22-2012, 08:46 AM
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03-05-2013, 05:56 AM
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The Wanderer
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HTML5 is a newer version of HTML for browsers that support the features that comprise it. HTML 5's new Canvas allows for both 2D and 3D graphics.
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03-07-2013, 09:03 AM
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The Wanderer
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Good work sharing sitepoint link, I am waiting for some video tutorials to be released from their end.
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04-04-2013, 09:26 AM
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The Visitor
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HTML5 is the latest version of HTML which include so many features which are very useful during programming. I appreciated the features of HTML5 such as <canvas> element for 2d drawing,<audio> and <video> elements for media playback,new form control such as calender,date,time,email etc.
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