TalkPHP Project

Kalle · 05-21-2008, 02:57 AM

So I was thinking... how about a TalkPHP project where the community develop a smaller program/product.

It could be pretty fun to see how big it could go by starting out with small milestones to create something that the whole community helped build.

Example ideas:
- CMS/Blog system (Seems to be popular these days)
- A TalkPHP Framework/Library

Setting up a CVS repository and let forum members request access to commit changes and see how it goes, Im sure it could be fun and alot of users would help share their knowledge and make it great.

Cheers

EyeDentify · 05-22-2008, 08:59 AM

Not bad of an idea :)

Jim · 05-23-2008, 09:21 AM

Yes I think that would be a wonderful idea! We can all learn from it. :)

I'm in! (as long as the software won't get all bloated)

Wildhoney · 05-23-2008, 07:05 PM

I'll be more than happy to add a CVS repository to TalkPHP, if you guys were to go ahead with a group project. If you get it organised and let me know, I'll go ahead and do that just for you! Who knows, I may even contribute myself. It sounds like fun!

Kalle · 05-27-2008, 01:14 AM

If theres others willing to help out and we can decided a project I will more than gladly help out =)

Jim · 05-27-2008, 10:34 AM

Maybe we can use the IRC channel of talkPHP to discuss a project?

irc.chatwebdev.com
#talkPHP

Im in as ZonaX

sketchMedia · 05-27-2008, 02:37 PM

Sounds like a good idea, I'd prefer SVN to CVS its basically CVS but better, with apache built in so you can browse the repository on-line and also it figures out file types where as in CVS you have to specify if its binary (image etc) or text (php css html etc etc) which could end up in dodgy data if people dont know what they are doing. Commits are atomic meaning a commit only succeeds if the entire commit succeeds so you won't have to manually figure out what still needs to be committed if a commit fails part way through etc etc.
There are more benefits but they escape me at present.

subversion.tigris.org

delayedinsanity · 05-27-2008, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Commits are atomic

Yikes!

Kalle · 05-27-2008, 06:12 PM

Im only used to basic CVS because I use it at php.net to commit changes various places, but I guess its not that big a deal to get used to SVN =)

And may I suggest an IRC channel on either efnet.org or freenode.org insted?

delayedinsanity · 05-27-2008, 06:16 PM

What ever happened to dalnet? chanserv? nickserv? Are my beloved lil bots gone?

And Kalle, are you a developer for PHP?
-m

sketchMedia · 05-27-2008, 07:58 PM

yea svn has pretty much the same syntax as cvs i.e.

Code:

svn add test.php

svn commit -m"a test file to svn repository" test.php

etc etc

but you use urls instead of paths, for a checkout:

Code:

svn co http://serverurl.com:444/projects/svntest

checks out the svntest project from the repository

Kalle · 05-27-2008, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delayedinsanity

What ever happened to dalnet? chanserv? nickserv? Are my beloved lil bots gone?

And Kalle, are you a developer for PHP?
-m

Im not really developing PHP fulltime, but I've put in a few patches available from 5.3 =)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sketchMedia

yea svn has pretty much the same syntax as cvs i.e.

Code:

svn add test.php

svn commit -m"a test file to svn repository" test.php

etc etc

but you use urls instead of paths, for a checkout:

Code:

svn co http://serverurl.com:444/projects/svntest

checks out the svntest project from the repository

I know theres a SVN program just like the CVS one I use on Windows, called Tortoisesvn:
tortoisesvn.tigris.org

sketchMedia · 05-27-2008, 08:46 PM

cool, never used a GUI to CVS/SVN i always use the linux terminal (coz thats the layout at work)

maZtah · 05-28-2008, 09:29 AM

It's a very good idea.

What about writing a textbased game for the TalkPHP community?
I think it's a great way to learn OOP (PHP5).

Jim · 05-28-2008, 09:36 AM

In my opinion a textbased game is a bit... Lame, sorry.

I was thinking of a picture gallery. I still haven't found a good/ one. There is the Gallery(.menalto.com) project, but that's just very bloated and a hell to work with. (also unstable etc) You got coppermine, but that just looks like it came straight from hell :>

sketchMedia · 05-28-2008, 11:21 AM

I think a simple framework would be better suited, selecting a single application is a bit restricted to what the code can be used for, whereas if we created a framework more applications could follow.

maZtah · 05-28-2008, 12:26 PM

Alright.. /me is convinced.

ReSpawN · 05-28-2008, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maZtah

Alright.. /me is convinced.

Indeed. Count us in.

Jim · 05-28-2008, 06:46 PM

Than this dutchman cuts the tradition (mazTah is dutch too right?). In my humble opinion people who create frameworks don't get enough credit for their work. Some of the reason I would create OS software is to see the name of my product under other peoples websites. EG, in the early days (well... 3 years ago

) I created and maintained an opensource PHP shoutbox. Every time I saw a website with my shoutbox that made me a happy person! (for 2 secs though)

I've never saw a website which thanked CakePHP or something :)

delayedinsanity · 05-28-2008, 06:46 PM

Not to say this every time the word comes up, but there's already a million frameworks out there. What can a new one do that hasn't been done? Not raining on the parade, I just think it's a valid question. Zend, Drupal, codeigniter, cakephp, seagull, I mean that's quite a bit of diversity already. Maybe Jim has something? Maybe instead of reinventing the wheel, a more suitable and organizable project would be a smaller (anything can grow, given time) niche that hasn't been filled yet. An image gallery is one possibility, I mean the options out there are pretty dismal. Is there any other brainstorms (even ones not fully thought out, thus brainstorm) before we decide on the first thing that pops up?
-m