LOL.

Actually something I am heavily interested in is a Class based Access control list. I havn't been to impressed with the ones that are currently available, and had to write my own. Some of hte projects I do don't really need an ACL. But hey, why not. If I am ever in the need to give the ability for a guest user to view a specific page that once was denied, I just simply add it to the allowed 'actions' in the table and whoala, they can view something now.

My class has some nice issues though too. For instance, I can't deny/grant specific users permissions to overide his/her group permissions (even though multiple).

I also have not designed group permissions override others. The way it is setup, it is a 'denied until given permission setting', which means that if I give a user a permission, but by adding a second group to the user (responsibility if you will), which should take it away, it just assumes sinces its already been given the permission it has it.

It is a very small ACL though and I havn't come across anything that I need to grant a user to more then 1 group.

Inheritance is another nice thing. Completely missing that.

In a short way of saying it, you are denied everything unless it is allowed in nth group and you are a member of those groups.

ACLS are always fun, eh?

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That's actually what I've been working on for the past couple months. It started out as a simple 4 class UAC system and has since blossomed into a UAC/ACL monster with well over 18 classes at around 3-800 lines each, with a very rudimentary built in templating system and an administration package that allows for drop in modules so that the system can be used as a base with the ability to directly tie other projects into it's ACL. I figured my senior project for college was to build a small web site demonstrating what I'd learned, if I've been working on it the entire three years I shouldn't have any trouble acing it.
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So whats the subject on now?

• Coding standards (done?)
• Deciding what project to do
• Finding a project manager
• Getting started...

=) ?

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Yeah i also think we should move on to deciding what the project will be?

Edit @ Salathe:

The guidelines from the Kanoha project are now on the Wiki (don't know who posted it though). I think it would be fair enough to keep those and just edit some pointers we really like to change.

As a projectmanager i would like to vote for either Kalle or Salathe :)

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Responding to Kalle's post above

So whats the subject on now?

• Coding standards (done?)
  Not sure that discussion/decisions were actually made but to be honest I think that we just need someone to finalise one solid set of guidelines (ie, on the Wiki) and just force everyone to stick to them
• Deciding what project to do
  Image gallery - though what kind of image gallery hasn't been considered
• Finding a project manager
  An important point and we really need someone to step up and do it. There have been a few volunteers but no-one just taking the bait and running with it
• Getting started...
  Oh god when, when?!!

In response to sketchMedia's earlier response to my response to VI's post on the coding standards/styles

If the coding standards are followed (tabs for indenting, spaces for aligning) then the code sample that you provided will never occur (unless someone breaks away from the standards!). Tabs will be used for indenting (4 'spaces', 2, 1, 0, 20... however your editor is set up) and spaces for aligning whenever necessary (because tabs can have different widths so are useless for aligning). It works. Spaces for everything is just ugly and there are any number of editors (perhaps even IDEs!) which really aren't space-only friendly (ie, lots of hammering space or backspace when editing).

Back to my points above, perhaps it might just be easier to get some workable guidelines and force everyone to stick to them whether they like it or not, we could go on with "I like this way because" and "I like that way because" forever when in reality nothing is getting done.

After you find a project manager you need to do the other things outlined in my first post on this topic. For ease, I will repost it
We really haven't done too many of these yet. Coding style has been given a lot of emphasis lately, but we need to compete the rest. Although the list may not be in absolutely necessary order, everything should be done. I would recommend deciding on a project then getting a leader. From there the leader can coordinate things.

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I have created a member roster on the wiki. Since Google provides a good service with Google Code (SVN access, wiki and issue tracker in one) I'd be tempted to use Google code for the whole project - however it isn't very good with naming users (e.g. r...@uvshock.co.uk doesn't obviously point to me). Should we stick or use a CVS/wiki (or forum) on here?

I myself cannot go for project manager a a) I'm inexperienced and b) I don't have full time to commit to management as well as development. I've listed the project owners as Managers for now however. If everyone involved could post a Google account email here and be added to the system and then add your name, what you have experience of and TalkPHP alias to that page that would be helpful. If you think you can be a manager please add your name to the Managers section too.

Put me in as a consultant

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Done. Another thing I dislike about Google Code's system is that people can't register themselves. A system where we could have TalkPHP members register themselves would be easier.

When a project manager steps up, he or she can delegate tasks (such as adding people to the project!) as needs arise. Hopefully then, we can stop tripping over the little things and get on with the show.

I've moved myself into the "Vacationing in France throughout July/August" because I'll have little 'net access out there, no computer and very little spare time to do anything even if I had those.

If you guys want I can setup some voice servers and chat servers.
Theres this one program that allows several users to work on the same code at the same time, real-time. I used it when I was programming in LUA, so ill have to see what I can do about finding the program again, its a real nice program.

Again, I got a dedicated server ill dedicate to this project.

Jordan

A dedicated server would be exelent, I would be willing to configure it if it has not been.

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indeed it would, what os does it run? I hope its unix based.

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Empty set (0.00 sec)

It is all configured with phpMyAdmin, MySQL, and PHP5.

windows server 2003
if you would like to provide me with a operating system, ill see what I can do.

The only problem I see is that, its internet connection is based out of my house, so it's not the fastest internet. But it will get the job done.

voice servers?

i can take the time to be Head Manager if it's ok.
but i also want to contribute some snippets of code here and there

i have allot of time and i love to help out and yeah
i think i am a good organizer so yeah if you choose me pm me.

/codefreek

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This Should be good to use
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Blog & Forum for dev-team done.
apply on the forum what you want to have as work status

Talkphp
Talkphp’s Project blog

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Ill hand code a blog and a little forum if you would like, roster?, contact.
I'll do it anyway cause itll be good practice and something for me to do until this project gets started; got some good ideas.

Ill take up server admin if you guys want to use my server, keep in mind that its for dev purposes only.
I have another shared server with 250gb, its with 1and1 so its most likly overselling but since its real cheap a month and the 100% 24/7 uptime is a plus, and its not hogging my internet.

For what I have to offer, as i said before, but since everyone is taking up their positions; I can offer php, javascript and css programming.

I wouldn't mind be the project manager aslong theres someone else with me on the task so its split. If you Salathe or anyone else would like to do that then let me know so we can find that out.

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