TalkPHP Project - Page 3

Aaron · 06-13-2008, 09:21 PM

Ahahah... The IRC server is down.

Jim · 06-13-2008, 09:52 PM

What about 2 hours later? So you can get your 2 hours of sleap and i can get to eat :>

But erm, what about the others?

Edit:

Arg again? Damn, i have my community channel running there too! :S... What about freenode? Thé server for open source projects and it's fast.

Aaron · 06-14-2008, 07:12 PM

Just PM me with the answer to this form:

HTML Code:

[b]Time I am available (In GMT and US Pacific time please)[/b]

[b]My Contact Information[/b]
  [b]Email:[/b]
  [b]Other:[/b]

[b]Experience (Good leader, Experience with SVN, anything.)[/b]

[b]How I would like to help[/b]

I will get the roster set up and try to figure out a time where we can all brainstorm ideas.

Jim · 06-14-2008, 08:53 PM

Maybe is would be nicer if we could register to the project somewhere online. There are tons of project managers online, but i havent found one where users can register themselves to a project.

I will still send you the DM though.

Aaron · 06-14-2008, 08:57 PM

We haven't started it yet, what about a Talkphp project manager?

Jim · 06-14-2008, 09:00 PM

You mean like creating an open source project manager?

If so:
I think it would be nice! but i think we can get a much bigger audiance with a gallery. I still vote for a gallery :)

But that can wait till we can finally get together and discuss it :p

Salathe · 06-14-2008, 09:04 PM

We could just throw everything up on Google Code if folks don't mind putting everything under an open source license. That would give us SVN, code-browser, wiki, bug/issue tracker, etc. and most folks already have a Google account right?

Jim · 06-14-2008, 09:08 PM

Great Salathe! :) I think that's a good way to go!

Aaron · 06-14-2008, 09:18 PM

Okay here are the conventions for the project, tell me if I missed anything, or if you want to change anything.

PHP Code:


			
<?php
class Example{
  var $theInt = 1;

  function foo($a, $b){
    switch ($a){
    case 0:
      $Other->doFoo();
    break;
    default :
      $Other->doBaz();
    }
  }

  function bar($v){
    for($i = 0; $i < 10; $i++){
      $v->add($i);
    }
  }
}
?>

Salathe · 06-14-2008, 09:21 PM

Perhaps the topic of coding styles/guidelines would better be discussed in IRC at least to just get some firm initial thoughts. Personally, I'd rather not write code like that listed above, for a variety of reasons (but obviously would do so if the guidelines required it).

Jim · 06-14-2008, 09:51 PM

Aaron, sorry to say this, but clearly you've never worked in a proffesional development group (don't take this wrong, your a cool guy!). You can't just say what the guidelines for the project are on the fly. That is something that can easily take hours of discussion (per subject), you have to think of all kinds of things before the project.

The worst think that can happen is that we start programming and after a few weeks and thousands of lines of code we see that we've done some things pretty bad, of that something could be way better.

That scenario can always accur, but by thinking of everything before the project will minimize the posibility that something like that happens. :)

And (again don't take this wrong) there are others working on the project, please don't tell us what we need to do. :)

Aaron · 06-14-2008, 10:03 PM

Heh of course I haven't. Thats why I want someone to help me out with the whole thing.

As for the others working on the project: I have just been taking advice so far. If you want something changed, change it.

But yeah, owch. I'm just trying to actually get this to go somewhere. We have tried stuff like this before and it never happened. I want this one to actually happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salathe

Personally, I'd rather not write code like that listed above, for a variety of reasons

Could you tell me why you wouldn't use the style? I write like that, and I don't want to be doing something wrong.

Salathe · 06-14-2008, 10:38 PM

It's not really that you've done anything wrong, just an entirely different coding style that I would feel uncomfortable working with.

Aaron · 06-14-2008, 10:41 PM

That was actually automatically generated. I usually keep the PEAR standards for everything but indentation, where I use two spaces. It is easier for me to see.

Jim · 06-19-2008, 08:08 AM

Hmm which people do we have right now?

Jim
Aaron
Salathe (Starting September)
Kalle
maZtah (?)
Respawn (?)
Sketchmedia
Seraskier
Enfernikus
redSHIFT

I think it would be handy if you guys can confirm if you would like to help, so i can update this little list. I'll DM some of the guys if they don't read the topic in the next 2 days or so. :)

The ideas for a project:

Framework - Few like it few don't, about 50% / 50%
CMS - In the TS but not much spoken about, still fun option
Photo gallery - Those who responded on it seemed pretty fine.
Project tools - Like feature list, todo etc

I should not be speaking for all of you, but this is just a little reminding post. :)

I do think i can say behaf of others that all people and ideas still are very welcome.

Salathe · 06-19-2008, 11:08 AM

I'd love to be a part of this but won't be around to participate until September (going on vacation on Sunday for a week, then off on a working holiday in France for 9 weeks)!

Jim · 06-19-2008, 11:15 AM

Kay cool :) Too bad you'r going on a (huge!) holiday, you are one of the best programmers here

sketchMedia · 06-19-2008, 07:59 PM

I too would like to be a part of of this, i just have a few constraints at the moment due to work as its a bit hectic lately. I should be ok in a few weeks.

Google code sounds like a good idea.

Seraskier · 06-19-2008, 09:36 PM

Even though i'm not a huge member here, I'll take part in any way I can.

Contact me if you are interested.

Kalle · 06-19-2008, 09:55 PM

I wouldn't mind helping as long my time gives me enough to work on this.

And like said about about the coding style, its something we should discuss after the project details are in place.

I wouldn't mind going with any of the listed projects above. However the CMS and Photo Gallery would require a smaller framework in the internal code to make it more extensible from my point of view.

Also what do we do design wise on this, either way we would need a design if we dont do a framework or something without a visual interface?

Last I would suggest another idea for a project:
Project Tools
A set of project tools such as feature list, roadmap, bug tracker and stuff like that. It could be great fun to develop and use it at the same time.

If I don't show up on IRC then add me on MSN and tell me to get on and I will, msn can be found on my profile ;)