[Wildhoney]

Before we begin we start taking TalkPHP to the next level, we're going to, amongst other things, rearrange the forums. We propose removing the following 2 forums:

• XML, XSLT, XPath;
• E4X, XHTML, HTML, CSS;

Anybody have any objections, or perhaps even some suggestions as to the additions of any forums? We will be adding another forum entitled "EBooks" which will contain programming-related EBooks - although technically more programming papers unless anybody wishes to give away their EBook for free.

[Salathe]

Aww so long, farewell XML-related children. Any particular reason why the (X)HTML/CSS forum is going -- I know we're concentrated on PHP (duh!) but I've yet to find a PHP programmer not having at least some involvement with HTML documents and all the goodies that come along with that.

Whatever happens, I'm all for wee changes and sprucing the place up. :)

[Wildhoney]

Had no real call for it, to be fair. If you want HTML, you can go to Sitepoint or DigitalPoint, but if you want superior PHP help with engaging PHP discussions, TalkPHP is the one and only :)

[Gibou]

Mmm, I think that all web dev forum has to have an html / css section.
Even if you're the best php developer of the WOOOORLD, you have to master those static languages. Moreover, I'm sure a big part of php developers make mistakes when creating their html architecture concerning W3C or accessibility.

Don't you think ?
A great part of big websites with a beautiful API respect nothing of the semantic Web.

[Tanax]

I agree with @up.

CSS and HTML is kind of neccessary...

[Wildhoney]

Gibou: You do have a point. Spot on in my opinion. In which that forum'll be staying. The XML stuff would be nice to stay, but not many people are into that kind stuff at the moment as it's really an upcoming string of technologies.

[Gibou]

Why are you talking about xml ? I was defending the html/css forum ;)

But I don't agree with the fact that xml isn't an upcoming techno. When you see netvibes, iGoogle and so many others websites "Web 2.0", what do you see ? Ajax.
Asynchronous JAvascipt and Xml.
I'm sure xml will continue to be well used in the following years.

Moreover, if you want to generate a rss file, you need to know the xml syntax (and xml schema document wouldn't be useless).
To finish, xml stay a great storage way for relative fixed datas.

PHP5 has improve its xml management with simplexml, it's certainly not for nothing :)

[Tanax]

But if we instead have a forum for AJAX, it would cover XML aswell as JS ;)

So the pure XML forum is pretty useless.

And if you're having troubles with the PHP's functions handling XML, you should post it in the PHP forums(I've always done that for my XML problems with PHP), it'll be better organized that way..

[Wildhoney]

I was saying you were spot on with the HTML. The AJAX stuff is definitely here, but that falls under the Javascript forum. I was talking more about XSLT, XQuery, XPath, etcetera... which are technologies that aren't used on the Internet much at all at the moment due to them being unsupported by some browsers.

[Haris]

Originally Posted by Wildhoney

I was saying you were spot on with the HTML. The AJAX stuff is definitely here, but that falls under the Javascript forum. I was talking more about XSLT, XQuery, XPath, etcetera... which are technologies that aren't used on the Internet much at all at the moment due to them being unsupported by some browsers.

Why not dominate the market and start writing the tutorials on those topics.

[Wildhoney]

'Cause there's not a lot of call for them I would gladly write articles on them as I love XSLT, but it's far too narrow at the moment.

[Haris]

Originally Posted by Wildhoney

'Cause there's not a lot of call for them I would gladly write articles on them as I love XSLT, but it's far too narrow at the moment.

TalkPHP can make the buzz. I know some browsers ("IE") might not support them but what's bad in trying?