Internet Explorer 8
 

I have this site that I was just checking. It works in EVERY browser, and I mean every one. Including IE5.5 and 6. Guess what it didn't work on? Internet explorer 8. Microsoft just needs to know when to stop.

There's an 8 out now? What? Did they realize that when FF3 came out almost everybody had it in about 2 hours flat and that their market share is now 75%?

haha.
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Oh nevermind, it's still in beta... just like Windows Vista.

Internet Explorer 8 beta 1 came out a few months ago and didn't do well with any of the Acid tests. Apparently, Microsoft's excuse for the long delay between beta 1 and beta 2, which is coming August, was because of enormous developer feedback.

IE 8 Beta 1

I could see developers' feedback, stuff like "f*ck you Bill Gates" and "Just endorse FireFox already!"

"Did your grandma code this? My grandma can code better than this, she invented Basic."

IE & Opera I hate with a passion.

The newest Opera does higher then any browser save Safari on the acid3 test.

yet, theres conflicts with height property

All my things seem to work in IE8, I guess I'm just a God :P Seriously, I only check in IE8 as an afterthought, the rendering engine will probably change a bit before it's released anyway.

Its all about standards. Opera has the best IE has the worst. Just stop using hacks and you shouldn't be having any problems. In any browsers. Aaron if your page is rendering correctly in IE 5.5 its no wonder it doesnt work in IE8. IE 5.5 bearly knows what css is, and IE8 is getting closer to having css2 support.

Nothing personal, but I'm so tired of hearing that.

It has nothing to do with hacks. Internet Explorer can't handle valid CSS, period.
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Right it doesnt handle all css but it will handle most. FF2 didnt handle much css either. It wasnt until ff3 that it really could handle css well, I had more problems with FF2 then IE7. Problem is people use a css hack to get it to work in ie6, that hack in turn breaks ie7. So they make another hack for that ie7 bug which breaks IE8.

I have more problems in IE7 than FF2 :S

What do you use to check it as you're coding it? I use FF2 in production then check in IE7 aftwerwards.

CSS2!? I thought they were moving on to CSS3 by now. Jesus...

Well actually IE6 supported some flavor of CCS3 (I read it on CCS3.info) but only one or two features. Right now the current leaders in support for CCS3 are Safari, FF3, and Opera. Matthews is right though, I write my valid CSS and usually don't have any problems in IE7 aside from a few margin errors that are tweaked out easily enough.

Not even close to being a true statement.

Case in point #4,674: I have a button with non-breaking spaces in it, as well as white-space: nowrap defined, and Exploder has decided to take it upon itself to add a line break, right where my non-breaking space is.

I f*ng hate Exploder. I really do. :-)
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Or you could just put this IE8 quick in for now:

=P

On the plus side, and not that my sites are any major portion of the internet, but since the release of FF3, I've been watching the stats on 3 seperate sites slide slowly away from a 50/50 share to nearly 75/25 in favour of Firefox. Goooooo Firefox!
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And even better yet, 20% could be companies and schools!