Okay... This isn't a thread on who you think will win; I just want to know:

Do you think this is a racial election, more than a political one?

My thoughts:
Personally, I think most people don't want a Hillary (a woman) to be in power because of several reasons:

1. They're men
2. They feel that women base their decisions too much on emotion and not enough on logic
3. No woman has been president, they want to keep it that way.

Most people don't want Obama to win becauuuuuuuse:

• He is a Muslim
• He is Liberal

Personally, I think that Hillary's campaign sucks, and if you read Obama's, the guy has a real head.

This post was inspired by Yahoo answers :/ and all the remarks on there.

I've always been told, there are two subjects never to bring up in polite company: religion and politics, so I'll keep this as civil as possible.

Barack Obama isn't a Muslim, where did you get that idea? He was an atheist and is now a member of the Trinity United church in Chicago.

Other than that, I don't know why you would think Obama is more a liberal than Hillary. I think it's this unfortunate lack of interest or education in politics in general that give people the wrong ideas. Or they just happen to listen to Rush Limbaugh, either way.

Just so you're aware, I'm a white male, age 37, married. Registered as non-partisan. I voted for Obama in our (California) primary a couple of weeks ago, and if he becomes the Democratic nominee, I'll vote for him in November. I didn't vote for Hillary because I don't believe in her, not because I don't want a woman president. My wife is a Vice Principal of a school she helped found, and is working on her second masters. There is no way I am biased against Hillary based solely on the fact that she's a woman. That aside, I think the Clintons are simply another dynasty like the Bush's and I have no interest in another Clinton white house. I could go on about Bill's stay in office but I've said enough already.

I'm happy to have a polite debate on politics and the election in general if anyone's interested.

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I reject your reality, and substitute my own.

I don't have a problem with a woman or a black person (key word person, we are all people) running the country, its Clinton and Obama's stances I don't like.

I voted and will vote again for Mccain. I am conservative on almost all issues.

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These aren't my thoughts!

On Yahoo Answers this is a really large subject, I just took some of what other people were saying.

I personally like Obamas campaign if he can keep with it. His goals are kind of in the sky.

I don't reside in the United States, and so my opine is that the subsequent president of the United States should be non-belligerent. I don't mind what the president does to the United States in order to protect the interests and safety of their citizens, as long as the United States keeps its hands to itself, if you will.

Ever since I became consciously aware of what's happening in the world, I've seen the US as the aggressor. Now, I know that won't be a popular opinion, especially amongst the US individuals on this forum, but that's merely my personal view of the US as a UK citizen -- and I'm also well aware that the UK is not without its troubles both abroad and at home.

In a nutshell, I would love to see the US become a true beacon for not only charity, but also propagating love -- in a non-hippy sense, although undeniably it falls under roughly the same heading, and not fear, throughout the world.

There's no doubt that the US still has a lot of power, but I feel if the US president continues where Bush has left off, then I think the future is bleak for not only the US, but the world as a whole.

Incidentally, Yahoo Answer folks, if you want to add me, then by all means! I'm often over there tackling some of the more difficult questions -- extensively.

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Wildhoney, the only presidential candidate who fits your criteria, which are similar to my own, is Ron Paul. And unlike people think he has a great chance to win. Google him or search for him on YouTube--you'll find out exactly who he is.

I'm tired of professional politicians who do nothing but lie to the people, change what they said, and do not fulfill the promises they made to us! BOTH Hillary and Obama fall under this flag with John McKain and probably even Huckabee. Ron Paul is the only gentleman in office, and the only one who keeps his word. If you haven't heard what he said, then maybe you have heard the changes in what the Republican candidates say--they tailor their platform to whatever Ron Paul says.

Don't succumb to the brainwashing of the media, because they are telling you the outcome that interest groups want. Yet, the future is totally malleable.

Bush ran on a small government platform, praised the Constitution and said we should get back to it. But now? He's in office, things are different now. He said, and I quote: "It's [the Constitution] just a ******* piece of paper."

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I liked Ron Paul, until I got into the education part of his plans.

I can see, under his views, parents not educating their kids at all. They could take the money he gives to parents for home schooling and spend it on drugs/alchohol.

"I will veto any legislation that creates national standards or national testing for home school parents or students. I also believe that, as long as No Child Left Behind remains law, it must include the protections for home schoolers included in sec. 9506 (enshrining home schoolers’ rights) and 9527 (guaranteeing no national curriculum)."

I don't like it at all. That alone has the possibility to lower the [i]literacy rate[i] of our country. Currently, there is nothing holding parents back from educating their kids at home at a quicker pace, but with his new plans there will be no legal standards for education.

I like Ron Paul, like you guys, however I'm starting to think that changing from what we are now to what he wants us to be would be too radical of a change (i.e. we are so screwed up and powerful that doing anything to radically change that would screw us up even more), and it won't work as well as we would like it. I'm starting to like Obama, because he is the only one who even remotely resembles Ron Paul, and isn't as "good" (in my eyes) as many of the other candidates. I don't really want to go into it, since I could write pages on my opinions, which I really don't want to do.

I disagree. As a graduated homeschooler I couldn't be more concerned about my education. The government isn't responsible for the education of the youth, the people are. And since society needs intelligent, well schooled people private and career oriented schools would sprout quickly. There are plenty of homeschooling materials for teaching children available on the market at present.

I know a lot of homeschoolers, current ones, and I can tell you there isn't a one who isn't intelligent and is possessed of full literacy. Even in the poor families I know they are better educated than most. The money he talks about are tax credits, and I can tell you the poor families I know who homeschool need these credits.

It is irresponsible to cling to a system that is failing, and it is proven to be failing. Our ancestors who crossed the continent heading west were far more intelligent and better schooled than your average public school graduate today. The tests they used still remain, and a frightening majority of modern students outright fail these tests.

Furthermore, when my father was in school half a century ago he saw signs that the system was failing that he still talks about today. Things have only gotten worse, and without a radical change we will be the worst educated country in the world while spending the most money on education. I don't want that.

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You read too much propaganda, whoever told you that told you a blatant lie. Do some research on google, the only people who say they happened are propaganda/lie sites.

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You have no idea how sad it was to read that.

Just a little FWI: The US government spends thousand of millions of dollars on foreign aid every year. Did I mention our nations HUGE dept? Can't give away too much you know or we'll become another 3rd world nation too.

See here:
US and Foreign Aid Assistance - Global Issues

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Since I am not American, hopefully my opinion won't affect me in any way, but my vote goes out to Obama. He will set things straight and a little change in the US might be all for the best.

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I have to agree with you on this. I am a conservative person on a lot of issues.

What I do not agree with is this:

McCain is not a conservative. He has reached across the aisle on so many issues, he belongs over there. He needs to start trying to get the other side to come over, and this is something he will never do.

If you like war, vote for John McCain, and Iran will be the next quagmire.

If you want the rampant illegal immigrant problem to continue, vote for McCain, and we will allow anyone and their brother over the border with open arms.

If you want the Republican party to be smeared for the next 20 years, vote for McCain.

To quote a great movie:

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"Why is it drug addicts and computer aficionados are both called users?" -Clifford Stoll

I don't like McCain in many ways, but he is the only republican with a chance for the GOP, he is 10x better then Clinton or Obama.

edit: I didn't realize his stances on immigration. But here are some of his stances I like (over the dems that is). John McCain on the Issues
-Iran, he is willing to go to war with them because they sponsor terrorists.

-He will stand in Iraq till the jobs done.

-Hes not as against guns as the dems. If Obama has his way I loose all my semi-autos. I dont like the prospect of carrying a single action colt. If Clinton has her way I could not carry them on me when I go into a dangerous area. I would also have to store the ammo for my gun somewhere else besides my gun, I keep a loaded .45 next to my bed. Being that I have almost had to use my gun in what is considered a safe area, I feel strongly about this issue.

-McCain is against abortion, Obama voted against banning partial birth abortion as did Clinton. Abortion is a one way ticket to not get my ballot, I will never vote for anyone who favors that type of murder.

-Clinton wants to ratify kyoto, McCain doesn't even want the bill to pass. Obama has no record on it.

I see my vote for McCain not really as a "I support you" vote, its more just to keep Clinton or Obama out of office.

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks abortion is bad.

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So am I, I thought I was alone.

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I dislike abortion as well. I've not thought, to any great extend, of where I stand on pregnancies that have come about from such incidents as rape. All I can say is no matter what circumstances that baby is brought into the world under, surely it's not the baby's (or at least the foetus', at that stage) fault.

It's a tough one to call though, I feel. Mainly because the female who has been unfortunate to be raped, may not be emotionally, physically or financially ready for a baby -- and it's not like she's the one who has been reckless.

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Yes but if left to the people it wouldn't be done due to lack of money to buy textbooks and other supplies and to pay teachers, time, etc. If we want this country to be educated then the government has to be involved because not everyone is as fortunate as you to have parents with the resources to home school their kids. Without the government, I probably wouldn't have had a decent education.


I'm not sure McCain is in physically healthy/young enough to handle being president. It looks like a tough job that makes people age significantly. Who knows if McCain can handle it in his old age. IMO a vote for McCain is a vote for his vice president.

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