Did I choose the wrong language?

karq · 01-24-2008, 07:34 PM

So when I started to learn programming, I wanted to learn a language that can program computers not web.I'm not realy interested in programming web. And when I asked in a programming forum then everyone said that start with php, is this true?

Rendair · 01-24-2008, 07:44 PM

I would suggest learning C++, C#, C and so on for computer based programming, but C++ is very much like PHP the style and layout is almost the same just change a few words instead of echo just cout and so on.

Village Idiot · 01-24-2008, 07:49 PM

Dont learn PHP if you dont want to do web programming. The basic design you take about the two are completely different (a computer being a live setting and web only sending one message to the browser per execution). C and C++ are the two most used programming languages out there (java is also used a lot), I would recommend C++.

karq · 01-24-2008, 08:13 PM

ok going to start to learn c++ then.

Alan @ CIT · 01-24-2008, 11:48 PM

As others have mentioned, PHP is really a web-based language. I would recommend you learn C# rather than C++ though.

You can download Microsoft Visual C# Express 2008 for free from here: http://www.microsoft.com/express/vcsharp/Default.aspx

There are also plenty of tutorials, resources, etc on that site and if you run into any questions or problems, feel free to PM me (since this is a PHP forum) as I've been doing Windows software development for a living for some 10 years so could probably help you learn

Alan

Orc · 01-24-2008, 11:56 PM

Well that's a doozy, but you should learn some C/C#/C++ and VB.NET, though C# = VB.NET in ways

Haris · 01-25-2008, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan @ CIT

As others have mentioned, PHP is really a web-based language. I would recommend you learn C# rather than C++ though.

You can download Microsoft Visual C# Express 2008 for free from here: http://www.microsoft.com/express/vcsharp/Default.aspx

There are also plenty of tutorials, resources, etc on that site and if you run into any questions or problems, feel free to PM me (since this is a PHP forum) as I've been doing Windows software development for a living for some 10 years so could probably help you learn

Alan

Why would you recommend C# over C++ ?

Orc · 01-25-2008, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Haris

Why would you recommend C# over C++ ?

He likes to code more than less of that in C++, in C# you have to code more, in C++ you have to code less, and in C# you actually have to define a lot yourself, rather than use C++, technically, C# is a more harder C :P

Haris · 01-25-2008, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Orc

He likes to code more than less of that in C++, in C# you have to code more, in C++ you have to code less, and in C# you actually have to define a lot yourself, rather than use C++, technically, C# is a more harder C :P

I like challenges.

Alan @ CIT · 01-25-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Haris

Why would you recommend C# over C++ ?

Mainly because Microsoft will be pushing C# are the future language of choice in 2008.

Also, in my experiance, employers are crying out for C# developers more than C++ devleopers nowadays

Alan

TlcAndres · 01-25-2008, 11:03 AM

On a side note, C# was being ported (or already has been) to MAC wasn't it? atleast from some far off programming source I heard.

karq · 01-25-2008, 05:36 PM

people you are confusing me :D What should I take then?C++ or C#?

Alan @ CIT · 01-25-2008, 05:41 PM

The choice is up to you of course, but I would highly recommend you download Microsoft Visual C# Express 2008 and start learning C#

Alan

Nor · 01-25-2008, 05:53 PM

ewll C#, C++ ftw. I heard C# is very simple, you barely have to do much work (pff it aint programming if your not doing much -.-...)

Alan @ CIT · 01-25-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nor

I heard C# is very simple, you barely have to do much work

I wish that where the case as it would make my life much easier but alas, no programming lanauge is what I would call "very simple"

Alan

Orc · 01-28-2008, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan @ CIT

I wish that where the case as it would make my life much easier but alas, no programming lanauge is what I would call "very simple"

Alan

There is, it's called BASIC. :P

Beginners All Standard Instructional Code

People report though, that it gives them bad habits; I don't get that.

Orc · 01-28-2008, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan @ CIT

The choice is up to you of course, but I would highly recommend you download Microsoft Visual C# Express 2008 and start learning C#

Alan

That's mainly for Big Projects, usually one starts out with Small Projects. ;)

Village Idiot · 01-28-2008, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Orc

There is, it's called BASIC. :P

Beginners All Standard Instructional Code

People report though, that it gives them bad habits; I don't get that.

Stay clear of any basic language, they promote bad coding and sloppy code. I know this first hand from blitz basic

Orc · 01-28-2008, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Village Idiot

Stay clear of any basic language, they promote bad coding and sloppy code. I know this first hand from blitz basic

No Visual Basic for me, nor VB.NET :P and definitely not BASIC xD