Did I choose the wrong language?
 

So when I started to learn programming, I wanted to learn a language that can program computers not web.I'm not realy interested in programming web. And when I asked in a programming forum then everyone said that start with php, is this true?

I would suggest learning C++, C#, C and so on for computer based programming, but C++ is very much like PHP the style and layout is almost the same just change a few words instead of echo just cout and so on.

Dont learn PHP if you dont want to do web programming. The basic design you take about the two are completely different (a computer being a live setting and web only sending one message to the browser per execution). C and C++ are the two most used programming languages out there (java is also used a lot), I would recommend C++.

ok going to start to learn c++ then.

As others have mentioned, PHP is really a web-based language. I would recommend you learn C# rather than C++ though.

You can download Microsoft Visual C# Express 2008 for free from here: http://www.microsoft.com/express/vcsharp/Default.aspx

There are also plenty of tutorials, resources, etc on that site and if you run into any questions or problems, feel free to PM me (since this is a PHP forum) as I've been doing Windows software development for a living for some 10 years so could probably help you learn :-)

Alan

Well that's a doozy, but you should learn some C/C#/C++ and VB.NET, though C# = VB.NET in ways

Why would you recommend C# over C++ ?

He likes to code more than less of that in C++, in C# you have to code more, in C++ you have to code less, and in C# you actually have to define a lot yourself, rather than use C++, technically, C# is a more harder C :P

I like challenges. ^^

Mainly because Microsoft will be pushing C# are the future language of choice in 2008.

Also, in my experiance, employers are crying out for C# developers more than C++ devleopers nowadays :-)

Alan

On a side note, C# was being ported (or already has been) to MAC wasn't it? atleast from some far off programming source I heard.

people you are confusing me :D What should I take then?C++ or C#?

The choice is up to you of course, but I would highly recommend you download Microsoft Visual C# Express 2008 and start learning C# :-)

Alan

ewll C#, C++ ftw. I heard C# is very simple, you barely have to do much work (pff it aint programming if your not doing much -.-...)

I wish that where the case as it would make my life much easier but alas, no programming lanauge is what I would call "very simple" :-D

Alan

There is, it's called BASIC. :P

Beginners All Standard Instructional Code

People report though, that it gives them bad habits; I don't get that.

That's mainly for Big Projects, usually one starts out with Small Projects. ;)

Stay clear of any basic language, they promote bad coding and sloppy code. I know this first hand from blitz basic

No Visual Basic for me, nor VB.NET :P and definitely not BASIC xD