Mootools

allworknoplay · 04-25-2009, 09:14 PM

Ok so I downloaded Mootools...

All I have to do is include this outside script and that's it??

mootools-1.2.2-core-nc.js.txt

Then just start learning how to use its syntax?

Wildhoney · 04-26-2009, 01:02 AM

It should end in a JS extension, not a TXT extension, shouldn't it? But yes, once included you're good to go.

allworknoplay · 04-26-2009, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildhoney

It should end in a JS extension, not a TXT extension, shouldn't it? But yes, once included you're good to go.

Thanks!

That's what I thought, for some reason it downloaded as .txt extension but I will rename it to .js

They weren't kidding about being compact!

Tanax · 04-26-2009, 03:21 PM

Although I was a "Mootool'er" at first, I must recomend you to use jQuery. First of all, it's much more used, and there's alot more tutorials on it. In fact, if you check out blog.themeforest, and search for jQuery, there's a "jQuery for beginners" - a HUGE 15(16 actually) part series that will start you off from SCRATCH!

Anyways, if you still wanna go with Mootools, it's just to import it with a link tag in the HTML page.

allworknoplay · 04-26-2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanax

Although I was a "Mootool'er" at first, I must recomend you to use jQuery. First of all, it's much more used, and there's alot more tutorials on it. In fact, if you check out blog.themeforest, and search for jQuery, there's a "jQuery for beginners" - a HUGE 15(16 actually) part series that will start you off from SCRATCH!

Anyways, if you still wanna go with Mootools, it's just to import it with a link tag in the HTML page.

I've heard of jQuery all over the internet, not Mootools though except for here. Let me take a look at jQuery as well. You've always helped me out in the past so I trust your judgement.

I think there was another fellow in here too that suggested jQuery....

I hope it's not bloated!!!

sketchMedia · 04-26-2009, 04:00 PM

Quote:

I hope it's not bloated!!!

Not really.

I highly recommend it.

allworknoplay · 04-26-2009, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sketchMedia

Not really.

I highly recommend it.

checking it out now:

http://jquery.com/

It's amazing, whether it's jquery, mootools etc, we are learning yet another set of language instructions in order to program in another language....

Will there be a super jQuery to interact with jQuery so it can use JS functions?

haha....

Enfernikus · 04-26-2009, 05:34 PM

Well the reason we learn this is to expedite the process of writing JS, for instance we were to want to send an ajax POST request via jQuery we'd simply do

Code:

$.post('file.php',{postInfo: dataVar}, function(data){ alert('foo'); });

how ever, if we were to do it by hand we'd have something like ( taken from a tutorial, didn't feel like writing it )

Code:

 var http_request = false;
   function makePOSTRequest(url, parameters) {
      http_request = false;
      if (window.XMLHttpRequest) { // Mozilla, Safari,...
         http_request = new XMLHttpRequest();
         if (http_request.overrideMimeType) {
         	// set type accordingly to anticipated content type
            //http_request.overrideMimeType('text/xml');
            http_request.overrideMimeType('text/html');
         }
      } else if (window.ActiveXObject) { // IE
         try {
            http_request = new ActiveXObject("Msxml2.XMLHTTP");
         } catch (e) {
            try {
               http_request = new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP");
            } catch (e) {}
         }
      }
      if (!http_request) {
         alert('Cannot create XMLHTTP instance');
         return false;
      }
      
      http_request.onreadystatechange = alertContents;
      http_request.open('POST', url, true);
      http_request.setRequestHeader("Content-type", "application/x-www-form-urlencoded");
      http_request.setRequestHeader("Content-length", parameters.length);
      http_request.setRequestHeader("Connection", "close");
      http_request.send(parameters);
   }

   function alertContents() {
      if (http_request.readyState == 4) {
         if (http_request.status == 200) {
            alert('foo');      
         } else {
            alert('There was a problem with the request.');
         }
      }
   }

 postString = 'postData=' + encodeURI(dataVar);
 makePOSTRequest('post.php', postString);

You see the advantage? Admittedly though, henceforth the makePOSTRequest function is available for the rest of the script but it is currently not as flexible as the one that jQuery has available

allworknoplay · 04-26-2009, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enfernikus

Well the reason we learn this is to expedite the process of writing JS, for instance we were to want to send an ajax POST request via jQuery we'd simply do

Code:

$.post('file.php',{postInfo: dataVar}, function(data){ alert('foo'); });

how ever, if we were to do it by hand we'd have something like ( taken from a tutorial, didn't feel like writing it )

Code:

 var http_request = false;
   function makePOSTRequest(url, parameters) {
      http_request = false;
      if (window.XMLHttpRequest) { // Mozilla, Safari,...
         http_request = new XMLHttpRequest();
         if (http_request.overrideMimeType) {
         	// set type accordingly to anticipated content type
            //http_request.overrideMimeType('text/xml');
            http_request.overrideMimeType('text/html');
         }
      } else if (window.ActiveXObject) { // IE
         try {
            http_request = new ActiveXObject("Msxml2.XMLHTTP");
         } catch (e) {
            try {
               http_request = new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP");
            } catch (e) {}
         }
      }
      if (!http_request) {
         alert('Cannot create XMLHTTP instance');
         return false;
      }
      
      http_request.onreadystatechange = alertContents;
      http_request.open('POST', url, true);
      http_request.setRequestHeader("Content-type", "application/x-www-form-urlencoded");
      http_request.setRequestHeader("Content-length", parameters.length);
      http_request.setRequestHeader("Connection", "close");
      http_request.send(parameters);
   }

   function alertContents() {
      if (http_request.readyState == 4) {
         if (http_request.status == 200) {
            alert('foo');      
         } else {
            alert('There was a problem with the request.');
         }
      }
   }

 postString = 'postData=' + encodeURI(dataVar);
 makePOSTRequest('post.php', postString);

You see the advantage? Admittedly though, henceforth the makePOSTRequest function is available for the rest of the script but it is currently not as flexible as the one that jQuery has available

WOW!! Big difference....

Thanks....

I just hope the learning curve isn't steep for a JS newbie...

Tanax · 04-26-2009, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allworknoplay

I just hope the learning curve isn't steep for a JS newbie...

Check out the tutorials, it's actually really easy to understand!

gregor171 · 05-16-2009, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanax

Although I was a "Mootool'er" at first, I must recomend you to use jQuery. First of all, it's much more used, and there's alot more tutorials on it. In fact, if you check out blog.themeforest, and search for jQuery, there's a "jQuery for beginners" - a HUGE 15(16 actually) part series that will start you off from SCRATCH!

Anyways, if you still wanna go with Mootools, it's just to import it with a link tag in the HTML page.

Have the same bio and I agree. jQuery

PS: I had some issues using complex Mootool's Ajax with Safari. Next they removed some functions with next version, that were clearly not OK from start, so thinks stopped working after upgrade. Feels like MS.

ETbyrne · 05-17-2009, 02:27 AM

Yeah jQuery is amazing, I've made a quite a few plugins for it.