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09-15-2009, 04:04 AM
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The Acquainted
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Any thoughts on PHP_ED (IDE) from Nusphere?
Just wondering...
I am thinking seriously of purchasing PHP_ED from Nusphere. I like it because it has a nice, handcrafted feel. Some of the other IDEs (some free, such as Netbeans) feel a little like "one size fits all" to me. I have already purchased PHP Designer in the past and like it, but the development cycle is taking too long (i.e., I believe the developer is a one-man operation).
Does anyone else have any thoughts on PHP_ED?
Thanks,
Dave
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09-15-2009, 06:38 AM
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The Prestige
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NotePad++ is your friend
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09-15-2009, 02:02 PM
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The Acquainted
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So you don't see any worthwhile advantage in working with a dedicated PHP IDE, with projects, workspaces, highly-customizeable syntax, etc., and "all that other good stuff?"
Dave
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09-15-2009, 08:52 PM
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The Addict
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
So you don't see any worthwhile advantage in working with a dedicated PHP IDE, with projects, workspaces, highly-customizeable syntax, etc., and "all that other good stuff?"
Dave
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Nope, all I need is syntax highlighting and a server to test on. To me [sub]folders are projects.
For C++ I always use an IDE, but php just feels so much simpler than C++ so I don't see a need for that.
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09-15-2009, 09:12 PM
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The Addict
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PHP Designer is about to come out with a new version; It's the best IDE ever. Period.
( For PHP Anyways; Visual Studios is far better relatively speaking )
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09-15-2009, 05:58 PM
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The Prestige
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zend.com/pdt
I not a firm believer in paying for stuff :) plus Eclipse PDT does exactly what you need.
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09-16-2009, 11:47 AM
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The Visitor
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NetBeans
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Originally Posted by Dave
Some of the other IDEs (some free, such as Netbeans) feel a little like "one size fits all" to me.
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There is a PHP download of NetBeans, which is intended specifically for PHP developers, not for everyone. I.e. it contains support for PHP, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, databases + SQL, FTP, ... But not support for Java, C++ or Ruby. Can you please specify more closely why does it feel like "one size fits all" to you? Thanks,
Petr.
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09-16-2009, 06:31 PM
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The Contributor
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PHPED was far to complex and involved for the tasks you wanted to complete, unfortunately as with a lot of editors out there this one is more focused on developing hard core features and packing the "Do It All" Application and doesnt focus on the intuitiveness of how the application really works ... it had a far to steep learning curve and I gave up on it in about 25 minutes
I have tried all of the IDE's/Editors mentioned here and found most of them confusing and to pack alot into a little, PHP Designer was nice ... but it is not very smart and the one thing I really didnt like about it is the Code Completion, it just gives a list of ALL functions/classes/variables available instead of ones target at the specific string you are typing.
I have been using Komodo for about 3 years now and it is absolutely wonderful, just upgraded from the free version to the IDE
Uses the same engine as firefox, written in Python/Javascript and does everything +more, but in a manner which isn't intrusive and in your face, it would say it is one of the best editors on Linux, Vim and others are still far ahead. It is also cross-platform and has a very nice license for the IDE version
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09-17-2009, 07:59 PM
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The Contributor
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I find IDE's overwhelming for PHP, and not needed.
When I used Windows I really struggled to find a decent simple editor. I didn't need much else than; navigation, customizeability as well as minimalism. I ended up using Sublime Text, and it was really great. (And pleasing to the eyes)
When I went to Linux, I started using gEdit. But eventually turned to Vim. And here I stop, and I've never looked back to anything. It's really the best editor out there. It's very simple, stable and super customizable. It's pain in the ass in the start, but as you learn to use it - you'll love it.
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09-17-2009, 09:20 PM
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The Prestige
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Originally Posted by Sirupsen
But eventually turned to Vim. And here I stop, and I've never looked back to anything. It's really the best editor out there. It's very simple, stable and super customizable. It's pain in the ass in the start, but as you learn to use it - you'll love it.
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VIM OWNS ALL!!! much better than emacs imo (cue the editor war!)
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09-17-2009, 11:50 PM
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The Acquainted
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Thanks again for the replies. Ioan1k mentioned KOMODO EDIT (version 5.2 just released), which I'm taking a look at now. It is really nice and, despite all its capabilities, very user-friendly and...what's that word?...oh, yes...FREE.
Never heard of the SUBLIME TEXT EDITOR (mentioned by Sirupsen), but when I started reading about it, the reviews were pretty fantastic. However, the website will not come up this evening ( www.sublimetext.com) for some reason.
Dave
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09-18-2009, 11:21 AM
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The Contributor
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Quote:
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VIM OWNS ALL!!! much better than emacs imo (cue the editor war!)
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Agreed! :)
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09-18-2009, 01:11 PM
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how quixotic are you?
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I also use Notepad++
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