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04-08-2009, 02:33 AM
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The Contributor
Join Date: Mar 2009
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You can get editPad from http://jgsoft.com
I've been using it for about 10 years now. I also use TextPad as well. TextPad has a nice feature where you can just code something and don't even have to save it -- but can view it in the browser so you can see right away how it's going to look.
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04-08-2009, 02:38 AM
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#22 (permalink)
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The Gregarious
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Originally Posted by WebSavvy
You can get editPad from http://jgsoft.com
I've been using it for about 10 years now. I also use TextPad as well. TextPad has a nice feature where you can just code something and don't even have to save it -- but can view it in the browser so you can see right away how it's going to look.
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Ahh I see it's the same price as UltraEdit. You should check it out...
http://www.ultraedit.com/products/ultraedit.html
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04-08-2009, 02:50 AM
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The Contributor
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Yeah, I might check it out. I love the programs I already use, so probably wouldn't switch.
I use the same programs all the time. EditPad for writing code. TrayColor for getting the exact color from an image file so I can use it in my design. Plus, I use SLUGS for color matching as well.
I have a few stock photography sites I get images from and those usually inspire my theme design. Then, once I get a basic idea of how I want to lay it out, I start adding the colors.
Then, I check everything to make sure the color contrast ratios between background and foreground pass WAI-AAA. If all goes well, it ends up online. If it kicks and screams -- well ... I just edit it some more until it behaves. 
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04-08-2009, 02:57 AM
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The Gregarious
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: New York
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Originally Posted by WebSavvy
Yeah, I might check it out. I love the programs I already use, so probably wouldn't switch.
I use the same programs all the time. EditPad for writing code. TrayColor for getting the exact color from an image file so I can use it in my design. Plus, I use SLUGS for color matching as well.
I have a few stock photography sites I get images from and those usually inspire my theme design. Then, once I get a basic idea of how I want to lay it out, I start adding the colors.
Then, I check everything to make sure the color contrast ratios between background and foreground pass WAI-AAA. If all goes well, it ends up online. If it kicks and screams -- well ... I just edit it some more until it behaves. 
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I hear ya, once you are used to certain products you don't want to switch. That's why I am having a hardtime not using Dreamweaver but I feel that I won't ever become an advanced programmer unless I hand code everything like you guys do.
I use an old version of adobe photoshop for my artwork and color matching. You know, I've tried all the new versions Dreamweaver CS3 and Photoshop CS3 and they are BLOATED. I really don't want to buy a book just learn how to use the new features that they provide when I've gotten by without them. And most programmers just hand code anyways.
Since we are on the topic of colors, what monitor do you use?
Anything special?
I admit I don't have very good monitors so that's why I go with hex colors that I am familiar with. My new HP laptop is an 18" 1080p monitor and the colors look great but it's 18". I need to get myself a nice 24" for designing...
I have it connected to a 19" monitor but it's a cheap 19" flat panel and it's only 6-bit. I'm "supposed" so spend the money and get a true 8-bit panel but I've gotten away so far without it..
But I can see a difference in colors between the laptop colors and the external monitor...
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04-08-2009, 03:09 AM
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The Contributor
Join Date: Mar 2009
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I have a CRT monitor -> MultiSync 75 Flat Panel 17 inch, 32 bit. I really like it a lot but have had it for a few years now. I'm thinking about buying a plasma flat screen but haven't made up my mind about it yet.
I live in the backwoods area of IL, and there's really NOTHING out here as far as computer stores go. So, I have to shop online for those kinds of things.
It's so remote out here the only Internet connection available is dialup. There is no cable, no dsl, no broadband for this area. Thank God I'm moving to Texas this summer and will have access to better Internet connection. sheesh.
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04-08-2009, 03:16 AM
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The Gregarious
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Originally Posted by WebSavvy
I have a CRT monitor -> MultiSync 75 Flat Panel 17 inch, 32 bit. I really like it a lot but have had it for a few years now. I'm thinking about buying a plasma flat screen but haven't made up my mind about it yet.
I live in the backwoods area of IL, and there's really NOTHING out here as far as computer stores go. So, I have to shop online for those kinds of things.
It's so remote out here the only Internet connection available is dialup. There is no cable, no dsl, no broadband for this area. Thank God I'm moving to Texas this summer and will have access to better Internet connection. sheesh.
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Wow, hard for me to comprehend that living here in NY. So what are you using for internet access?
I like using tigerdirect.com or newegg.com, both online stores are pretty good.
You'll have to get used to the Texas heat, but at least it sounds like you'll have a whole lot better chance to be more social down there than IL...at least have access to current technology! haha...
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04-08-2009, 03:21 AM
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The Contributor
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I use AOL dialup here and it BITES. I have a 56k modem but would be lucky to connect at anything even remotely close to that.
We have this mini river that's right next to the house and our phone junction box is right at the edge of it. So, when it rains my phone line drowns too and then connection is non-existent for half of the day. Well, the other half of that day I'm lucky to get online at anything higher than 33kbps
But yeah, Texas will be waaaaaay better. I've been in IL now for almost 8 years and hate it. I moved here from Las Vegas which was a major culture shock because we were used to having access to everything and everything was open 24/7.
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04-08-2009, 03:30 AM
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The Gregarious
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Originally Posted by WebSavvy
I use AOL dialup here and it BITES. I have a 56k modem but would be lucky to connect at anything even remotely close to that.
We have this mini river that's right next to the house and our phone junction box is right at the edge of it. So, when it rains my phone line drowns too and then connection is non-existent for half of the day. Well, the other half of that day I'm lucky to get online at anything higher than 33kbps
But yeah, Texas will be waaaaaay better. I've been in IL now for almost 8 years and hate it. I moved here from Las Vegas which was a major culture shock because we were used to having access to everything and everything was open 24/7.
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That is a culture shock! wow....sin city to...no city...LOL...
Well you are moving soon anyways, but I was going to suggest possibly the Verizon satellite card that would probably fit the bill for you, I think it can provide a good 1MB download speeds.
Anyways, don't know about you but I gotta hit the bed, nice chatting with you tonite, have a great nite!! 
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04-08-2009, 03:32 AM
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The Contributor
Join Date: Mar 2009
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LOL. Nah, it's early here. I like to work while the house is quiet. Ok, have a great night and I'll post the pagination codes for you some time mid-day tomorrow.
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04-08-2009, 10:02 AM
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The Prestige
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meh ... my headache is from Internet Explorer 6 not doing what I want it to. <growl>
I have a new design I'm working on and it uses one fixed element (the footer). I've added all the required CSS hacks for it, but it still wants to drop itself into the middle of the page and it's ticking me off.
I'll figure it out, I'm sure -- but it sure is a pain. I loathe IE6!
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I feel your pain, IE6 really (and i do mean REALLY) stresses me out, don't even get me started. The best tool i found (on the windows platform) is IETester, allows you to have the best of redmond's browsers IE5.5, IE6, IE7 and IE8 RC1 installed, also allows you to test sites that are in a dev environment (i.e. not live).
http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage
Its pretty stable for an alpha release.
Editors, I also hand code both my css, html and javascript (as well as php) using vim (gVim on windows), I find anything else too bloated.
Its good to see some people develop for accessibility, it annoys me when sites completely ignore the concerns of screen readers and even the basics like contrast and access keys. Its not like its any more hassle, in fact if people coded their HTML properly in the first place then the major accessibility stuff kind of falls into place.
Anywho, this thread has gone wildly off topic
I did once have a class to do this (breadcrumbs that is), but after scouring my HDD I think its got lost in the annals of time, like so much of my work. Thank god I'm moving everything I DO have left onto an SVN repository.
FYI, Photoshop CS4 rocks!
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04-08-2009, 02:14 PM
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#31 (permalink)
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The Gregarious
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: New York
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Originally Posted by sketchMedia
I feel your pain, IE6 really (and i do mean REALLY) stresses me out, don't even get me started. The best tool i found (on the windows platform) is IETester, allows you to have the best of redmond's browsers IE5.5, IE6, IE7 and IE8 RC1 installed, also allows you to test sites that are in a dev environment (i.e. not live).
http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage
Its pretty stable for an alpha release.
Editors, I also hand code both my css, html and javascript (as well as php) using vim (gVim on windows), I find anything else too bloated.
Its good to see some people develop for accessibility, it annoys me when sites completely ignore the concerns of screen readers and even the basics like contrast and access keys. Its not like its any more hassle, in fact if people coded their HTML properly in the first place then the major accessibility stuff kind of falls into place.
Anywho, this thread has gone wildly off topic
I did once have a class to do this (breadcrumbs that is), but after scouring my HDD I think its got lost in the annals of time, like so much of my work. Thank god I'm moving everything I DO have left onto an SVN repository.
FYI, Photoshop CS4 rocks!
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Hey Sketch,
Could you give me some positives to the purpose of SVN?
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04-08-2009, 09:41 PM
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#32 (permalink)
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The Contributor
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Springfield, IL USA
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Originally Posted by sketchMedia
I feel your pain, IE6 really (and i do mean REALLY) stresses me out, don't even get me started. The best tool i found (on the windows platform) is IETester, allows you to have the best of redmond's browsers IE5.5, IE6, IE7 and IE8 RC1 installed, also allows you to test sites that are in a dev environment (i.e. not live).
http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage
Its pretty stable for an alpha release.
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Hey thanks! I'll have to check that one out. I have IE6 installed (because I use windows '98). I have this program that resizes the browser window to different sizes without having to actually touch my monitor so that way I can see how something's going to look in smaller resolutions.
You can get that here if you're interested: http://rjlsoftware.com (it's free)
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Originally Posted by sketchMedia
Its good to see some people develop for accessibility, it annoys me when sites completely ignore the concerns of screen readers and even the basics like contrast and access keys. Its not like its any more hassle, in fact if people coded their HTML properly in the first place then the major accessibility stuff kind of falls into place.
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I always do. I use a screen reader myself, because I have to. I'm almost blind and have been this way my whole life.
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Originally Posted by sketchMedia
Anywho, this thread has gone wildly off topic 
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Yeah, it has @ LOL. But, sometimes exchanges in forums mimic conversations in life and in the process other topics or key points brought into the mix are what help in the discovery and learning process. Helping someone else come to an understanding of something, always has a positive outcome.
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If more people took the time to actually help someone, the world would be a much nicer place. If just one person paid that knowledge forward to at least 3 other people, and those people in return paid it forward to even one other person, each -- the benefits would be enormous.
That's why I like forums like this -- because they matter, and they make a difference.
OK ... I'm off my soapbox now. People that are selfish about their knowledge bother me.
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Could you give me some positives to the purpose of SVN?
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I'd be interested to hear about it too, please? 
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04-08-2009, 10:32 PM
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#33 (permalink)
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The Contributor
Join Date: Mar 2009
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OK, I posted my pagination script in a new thread here.
If you need any help with it, just post it in that thread. 
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04-08-2009, 11:56 PM
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#34 (permalink)
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The Gregarious
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: New York
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Originally Posted by WebSavvy
OK, I posted my pagination script in a new thread here.
If you need any help with it, just post it in that thread. 
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Thanks, i will take a look!
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