uhh... OOP?

Aaron · 01-23-2008, 05:19 AM

So here is what I *THINK* I gleaned from OOP...

To declare a new object, you use the new function like so:

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$object = new object();

I am not even sure if an object is an array. It is in Javascript :/

Then, a method is... a needlessly complex word for a function, in which every variable has to start with "this->", because this is used by the object to reference to itself...

A class, I remember, is something like the objects framework. It is like a blueprint for the object. The problem is, I don't know how.

Properties are another thing... I does not remember them.

Go easy on me... I am really confused right now.

Orc · 01-23-2008, 06:23 AM

An Object in PHP is $this->object
$this grabs the property reference for that method.
And a method I think only referes to functions inside a class..
And such methods as Magic methods are called such as:

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function __construct();
function __destruct();
function __get();
function __set();
function __autoload();
function __isset();
function __unset();

And are only acceptable in PHP5, thus I love it!

More information on Magic Methods, Classes, Objects:
PHP: Classes and Objects (PHP 5) - Manual

Properties are things as those variables inside the class:

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class test
{
 public $test;
 public $foo;
 public $orc;
}

PHP4 had Var though it's still capable, it's more reasonably acceptable to use visibility: Public, Private, Protected

I usually use __construct and then add upon inside my functions, though you can only set your visibility on __construct, cause in my theory, it's making every single thing in that construct as the visibility:

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 public function __construct()
 {
   function yourfunction()
   {
     // add whatever
   }
 }

[/php]

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$object = new object;

This means you're assigning $object to get a new instance of object class, thus theres no parentheses.

Also, an object can infact be an array.

As said, above, to the link about PHP5 classes, objects, I'd study that and continue on with whatever you're doing! :]

I could go on forever, but just check the link, considering I don't want to make duplicate posts. :P

Aaron · 01-23-2008, 06:38 AM

Thanks orc, that helped a lot.

By the way I like the new signature.

Orc · 01-23-2008, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron

Thanks orc, that helped a lot.

By the way I like the new signature.

Thanks! And no problem, glad to help out anyone with what knowledge I have of the Language, :P

obolus · 01-23-2008, 09:05 AM

Good stuff Orc.

VI wrote a nice OOP article a while back: Tutorial: PHP and OOP, a beginners guide

Tanax · 01-23-2008, 09:53 AM

$this can only be used within the class though, and never outside.
Also, there are static variables and functions, and to refer to them you must use the self:: method.

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class staticClass {
public static $szVariable;

public static function setVar($szVar) {
self::$szVariable = $szVar;
}

}

The good thing about this is that you don't have to create the object.

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include('staticClass.php');

staticClass::setVar('Hi there!');
echo staticClass::$szVariable;

Output:

Code:

Hi there!

I use this method in my DB factory, and it's awesome!

Orc · 01-23-2008, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanax

$this can only be used within the class though, and never outside.
Also, there are static variables and functions, and to refer to them you must use the self:: method.

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class staticClass {

public static $szVariable;



public static function setVar($szVar) {

self::$szVariable = $szVar;

}



}

The good thing about this is that you don't have to create the object.

PHP Code:


			
include('staticClass.php');



staticClass::setVar('Hi there!');

echo staticClass::$szVariable;

Output:

Code:

Hi there!

I use this method in my DB factory, and it's awesome!

Isn't the alternative way of doing that would be

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staticClass->setVar('Hi There!');

staticClass->$szVariable;

Considering I know thats the alternative way. or :s;S;d

Tanax · 01-23-2008, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orc

Isn't the alternative way of doing that would be

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staticClass->setVar('Hi There!');
staticClass->$szVariable;

Considering I know thats the alternative way. or :s;S;d

No, the alternate way would be to instead of having the function and variable static, you just use the normals:

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class staticClass {
public $szVariable;

public function setVar($szVar) {
$this->szVariable = $szVar;
}

}

Also note that you have to use $this instead of self:: when referring to $szVariable inside the class.

But then you have to create the object:

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include('staticClass.php');

$object = new staticClass();
$object->setVar('Hi there!');
echo $object->szVariable;

In this simple example, static method doesn't seem very useful, but I promise that it's a GREAT method when using a DB factory.

If this topic is still going when I get home from school in about 3 hours, I'll post my DB factory, and explain how to use it..

Orc · 01-23-2008, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanax

No, the alternate way would be to instead of having the function and variable static, you just use the normals:

PHP Code:


			
class staticClass {
public $szVariable;

public function setVar($szVar) {
$this->szVariable = $szVar;
}

}

Also note that you have to use $this instead of self:: when referring to $szVariable inside the class.

But then you have to create the object:

PHP Code:


			
include('staticClass.php');

$object = new staticClass();
$object->setVar('Hi there!');
echo $object->szVariable;

In this simple example, this method doesn't seem very useful, but I promise that it's a GREAT method when using a DB factory.

If this topic is still going when I get home from school in about 3 hours, I'll post my DB factory, and explain how to use it..

Thanks for clearly that up for me, I've only been doing PHP for about 8 months to a year now so..

Off Topic:
GTalk notification of a new Email on the GMail email system has a long delay, lol.

By the way, you could just use the __autoload() magic method for grabbing php classes, :) though it doesnt work in the CLI

Tanax · 01-23-2008, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orc

Thanks for clearly that up for me, I've only been doing PHP for about 8 months to a year now so..

Off Topic:
GTalk notification of a new Email on the GMail email system has a long delay, lol.

By the way, you could just use the __autoload() magic method for grabbing php classes, :) though it doesnt work in the CLI

Wow, really?
You're learning fast

Here's a more advanced example, taken from another thread:

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class DBfactory

{

    public static $pDB;



    public static function &factory($szType = "")

    {

        if(!is_object(self::$pDB))

        {

            switch($szType)

            {

                case 'mysql':

                    self::$pDB = new DBmysql;

                    break;

                case 'mssql':

                    self::$pDB = new DBmssql;

                    break;

                default:

                    self::$pDB = new DBmysql;

                    break;

            }

        }

        return self::$pDB;

    }

}

And to use it:

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$db = DBfactory::factory("mysql");

$db->query("..");

If the DBfactory wouldn't have static function and variables, you would have to declare the object first:

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$DBfactory = new DBfactory();

$db = $DBfactory('mysql');

And then we can use the functions of the db object such as for example executing a query.

So the advantage here is that you don't have to create the object DBfactory since it's static, and in the actual static function, it create the object.. and returns it.

Ofcourse you have to include the files containing the classes of the objects you want to create. ANd this can be used not just for DB. I'm using it as a ALLround system.

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$db = DB::getInstance('DBmysql');

TANAXIA::setDB($db);

$news = TANAXIA::getInstance('news');

$forum = TANAXIA::getInstance('forum');

And so on..
I have 2 factory classes there as you can see.
One for the DB, and it contains the creation of objects of
DBmysql
DBmysqli
DBoracle

etcetc..

And TANAXIA contains the creation of objects for misc things using the DB class.

Using the factory pattern (mad rantings of a mind without coffee)

Orc · 01-23-2008, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanax

Wow, really?
You're learning fast

Here's a more advanced example, taken from another thread:

PHP Code:


			
class DBfactory

{

    public static $pDB;



    public static function &factory($szType = "")

    {

        if(!is_object(self::$pDB))

        {

            switch($szType)

            {

                case 'mysql':

                    self::$pDB = new DBmysql;

                    break;

                case 'mssql':

                    self::$pDB = new DBmssql;

                    break;

                default:

                    self::$pDB = new DBmysql;

                    break;

            }

        }

        return self::$pDB;

    }

}

And to use it:

PHP Code:


			
$db = DBfactory::factory("mysql");

$db->query("..");

If the DBfactory wouldn't have static function and variables, you would have to declare the object first:

PHP Code:


			
$DBfactory = new DBfactory();

$db = $DBfactory('mysql');

And then we can use the functions of the db object such as for example executing a query.

So the advantage here is that you don't have to create the object DBfactory since it's static, and in the actual static function, it create the object.. and returns it.

Ofcourse you have to include the files containing the classes of the objects you want to create. ANd this can be used not just for DB. I'm using it as a ALLround system.

PHP Code:


			
$db = DB::getInstance('DBmysql');

TANAXIA::setDB($db);

$news = TANAXIA::getInstance('news');

$forum = TANAXIA::getInstance('forum');

And so on..
I have 2 factory classes there as you can see.
One for the DB, and it contains the creation of objects of
DBmysql
DBmysqli
DBoracle

etcetc..

And TANAXIA contains the creation of objects for misc things using the DB class.

Using the factory pattern (mad rantings of a mind without coffee)

Thanks! Since I'm basically asleep here, it's kinda hard for me to concentrate, the reason I'm up is cause code doesn't bore me like other people :P but umm, it's 5:26 AM >.<

As stated in my Profile, I'm addicted to and I'm in love with Computers, true nerd here xD

Tanax · 01-23-2008, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orc

Thanks! Since I'm basically asleep here, it's kinda hard for me to concentrate, the reason I'm up is cause code doesn't bore me like other people :P but umm, it's 5:26 AM >.<

As stated in my Profile, I'm addicted to and I'm in love with Computers, true nerd here xD

Haha :D
It's 11.30AM here :O

;) You live in canada or something? USA.. :P

Orc · 01-23-2008, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanax

Haha :D
It's 11.30AM here :O

;) You live in canada or something? USA.. :P

Canada

but umm, I'm trying about 4 languages at once so I try them at once, some how I manage to keep up with them. I'm one of those people who have a million things happening their brains, their brains go faster than the speed of Light. :D

Orc · 01-23-2008, 10:39 AM

By the way, I got PHP Architecs, Zend Certification Study guide, it's awesome as to which contains a lot about OOP(classes and objects), More about Arrays, XML, Database Programming, and more..

By the way, expect me to be on TalkPHP for the period of time it's up, thus that'll probably be never, so expect me to be here in 20 years, LOL.. XD

Aaron · 01-23-2008, 10:40 AM

When did this thread get hijacked...?

Orc · 01-23-2008, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron

When did this thread get hijacked...?

When Tanax arrived. :P

Orc · 01-23-2008, 10:45 AM

Well, I'm starting to daze off, I'm going to jet! bY Everyone

sketchMedia · 01-23-2008, 12:50 PM

to go back to the original post:

Quote:

Then, a method is... a needlessly complex word for a function,

it isnt when you think about it, a method is a method or an action of an object, although you could still say function and it would make sense, using method helps clarify the difference between normal user defined functions and class methods, thats just my own personal opinion

ReSpawN · 01-25-2008, 06:10 PM

Whoa Orc 's on a roll here. I'm not a hero on OOP myself but I find it very useful when talking about sessions, mysql and for example, form filtering. Same goes for making your own imageclass.

Is there a way to make it compatible with PHP 4 as well? Because I recon not ALL host have updates to PHP 5 yet.

/edit
Even my cheap ass host is still using
PHP Version 4.4.8

Village Idiot · 01-25-2008, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReSpawN

Whoa Orc 's on a roll here. I'm not a hero on OOP myself but I find it very useful when talking about sessions, mysql and for example, form filtering. Same goes for making your own imageclass.

Is there a way to make it compatible with PHP 4 as well? Because I recon not ALL host have updates to PHP 5 yet.

/edit
Even my cheap ass host is still using
PHP Version 4.4.8

PHP4's OOP capacity is pathetic, for the most part you cant make it compatible.