delayedinsanity your to good for this. I will put a request in to the queen for you to recive a medal so between now and 1000 years you might recive one. LOL thanks :) you put in so much effort to help people :P

Just one more thing... its not important but what if i just wanted to keep the first letter and the last letter in there and replace all the others? sounds simple enough and what you said made sense i actually had a script similar but lost it and couldent find it again... think it flew off somewhere to the east. Trying to get my head around this php and its coming along slowly with all the help im getting from here.