i'm happy to say im going back with designing with some tables
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03-18-2009, 09:31 PM
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: New York
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Not likely the W3C set the standards for both. If there is any conflict it would be due to a browser straying from the standards W3C has implemented.
As for books just get yourself a quick reference guide, as just knowing what tools you have is the biggest step. They usually have each style and an example or two. And you can just look up how to change the appearance (size, color, position, border, ect.) of any object or text. And, as I recently learned in an embarrassing moment, make sure you update your reference material in a timely manner.
Knowing HTML will allow you to write the base framework for whatever you are doing without having to see it. Now I write all my HTML but I do use my browser to see how it looks (ie. should that be 250 or 260 pixels in width). And it doesn't matter if you have one table or 5 nested tables. Make sure you can hand write it out. I know when I first started web design (in the 90's) I would go to work and during down time I would write out HTML on paper then take it home and try it. And to this day I hand code everything.
So get comfortable will hand coding HTML and to a lesser extent CSS. As your skill level in any other web based languages will depend on it.
And for the nested tables try to limit them. I may like tables still but at most I may nest one table inside another. If you nest too many your code gets hard to follow and you risk not closing tags out and that can take hours to find were you missed a closing tag on a larger project.
Thank you quick for that long and thoughtful response.
I've spent the last 10+ years using WYSIWIG to design websites. It is going to be a very tough challenge for me to basically learn to design from scratch. If that is what it takes to become a better developer, then so be it, I will have to put in that energy.
Hopefully I can find a balance where I can begin to transition slowly to CSS and not fully abandon tables/HTML completely...
I will probably have some further questions for you if you don't mind down the road...
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