I'm still using tables. And yes, I've done the hack way, which is to use tables within tables within tables...I just don't really know of any other way of doing it faster, especially since I use Dreamweaver.

I guess my issue is that I cannot conceptually design a site unless I am able to lay it out first in DW, then use DW to resize the table to my liking so it fits the data correctly.

Perhaps you guys have some kind of trick you use which I would love to learn, but I just don't know how one can design sites without some kind of GUI for visual reference...